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How Much Of A Role Does Racism Play In The Immigration Debate?: Left of Center View

Probably not as much as you would think. Look, no matter how PC (politically correct) we pretend to be, there is still extreme and rampant racism in America. Heck, it's not just racism either, we are constantly finding new ways to divide and squabble amongst ourselves. Which part of the country you live in, the color of your shirt, the kind of music you listen to, the street corner you stand on, we kill each other over this piddly stuff.

Americans are quick to diversify when it is to our advantage to do so. Jackie Robinson may have been the first African American to play major league baseball, but his being allowed to do so had much more to do with business than the ethical breaking down of the color barrier. It was simply good business, and once the other owners saw the success that came with allowing the "Negro" players in the league, they were quick to follow suit. Does this mean that these men changed their minds about racial equality or were they simply putting aside prejudice for profit? As Manager Leo Durocher informed the team, "I do not care if the guy is yellow or black, or if he has stripes like a fuckin' zebra. I'm the manager of this team, and I say he plays. What's more, I say he can make us all rich. And if any of you cannot use the money, I will see that you are all traded."

14,000 like skinned fans filled the stands to watch Mr. Robinson's debut, more than half of the 26,623 in attendance. The nation was divided over whether or not he should be allowed to play, but they came out to see him in droves, some to taunt other to cheer him on, but they all paid at the gate to get in.

Irish immigrants in the mid 1800's paid a very different admission as many were drafted into the Union Army as they stepped off the boats at the Castle Garden Immigration Depot in Manhattan (immigrants weren't processed at Ellis Island until 1892). Others who were unfit for military service were quickly herded into any number of low paying, dangerous jobs and faced staunch racist and anti-Catholic stereotypes. Yet today there are over 44 Million Irish Americans, making them the second largest ethnic group after German Americans.

In the public debate over immigration, racism is the pink elephant in the room. Of course it exists, just as discrimination against all immigrants does. But the fact of the matter is that when we need cheap, desperate labor, the gates open. The country uses what it needs and as a reward those that survive the process are allowed to stay. The populace may harbor ill will towards the new arrivals, but our policies will most likely remain those that serve the best interests of the country and the corporations that run it.


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How Much Of A Role Does Racism Play In The Immigration Debate?: Right of Center View

The relevant immigration debate has nothing to do with racism. The debate is about the rule of law, plain and simple. People who follow the law and come here legally are welcomed with open arms. We want immigrants to come to America legally and need them at times to fill the gaps in our workforce that Americans canít fill for whatever reason. This nation was founded by immigrants and we are all in some way descended from immigrants. We donít hate immigrants, we are immigrants. What we take issue with is people breaking the law and then wanting to be rewarded for it.

My family is diverse. I have cousins, in-laws and other various and sundry relatives including my wife and son who are of different ethnic backgrounds than myself. I am not a racist by any means but I absolutely believe that people who come to this country illegally need to be sent back on the soonest bus and put to the back of the line for legal immigration no matter how long theyíve been here. I also donít care where they started out. I want illegal immigrants from Europe sent back as much as I want those from Asia and Latin America to be sent back. If you came here the wrong way, get on the boat, plane, bus, train, whatever the quickest method might be and skedaddle. Donít expect us to welcome you with love and admiration for your struggle to break our laws. Go Home!

Bigotry is an ugly thing and it should not be tolerated. It also has no place in the immigration debate. We should not be singling out Mexicans or Chinese people or any individual ethnic group. We need to be making sure that all undocumented people are treated as the lawbreakers they are and held accountable for their disregard of our laws. The simple fact is that these people regardless of race, color, creed or national origin broke our laws and need to be held to account for doing so. This is not about terrorism or taxes alone. This is about the fundamental principle that the rule of law is the foundation of American society and anyone who wants to be a part of that society must first respect our laws and obey them. It is fine to question the law and make an effort to change the law but the law that exists must be followed until such time as it is no longer the law. Those who break the law must expect to be punished for their failure to obey the law whether they agree with the law or not. That is how it works in America folks.

Are there racists who use the debate to forward their ideas? Unfortunately there are but they are not the people who should be listened to because theyíre idiots. The people who want to have a real debate know this is about laws not skin color.

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A Legal Immigrantís Perspective

If you are not a Native American, you are an immigrant, so am I. I came legally to this country at the age of five with my parents who worked hard, paid taxes (even Jesus paid taxes), lived by the rules of this great nation and never took or accepted a penny from the government. We came seeking FREEDOM from a communist country. It was months before we were able to enter the US legally. I remember us getting medical exams, shots (small pox), background check, references, and going through numerous interviews once we arrived. I also remembered people coming to the US from all over the world who waited years since it was based on "Quotas". Read more...

Solving Our Immigration Problem

The major problem our country is facing with illegal immigrants today is because of the exploitation of these immigrants. We believe the solution to this problem is two-fold. First, we should allow more immigrants in this country to cut down on the number of illegal ones. Second, all immigrants should be educated about their rights at the expense of the government. Below, you will find an in-depth look at our suggested reforms.

Reforms for immigration limitations:

-New immigrants can't equal more than 1% of the US population in a given year (the population being from the last recorded census). That 1% will be further divided up to allow only a certain number of immigrants each month.
-Each country of origin for immigrants will be allowed a certain percentage of that 1%. No country could receive more than 10% of the total amount and no country can receive less than .1% of it. The left over percentage will be divided up between all countries as follows: Read more...

Do Elements Within the La Raza Movement Pose a Threat to America?

La Raza means literally ďThe RaceĒ in Spanish. The movement was formed in 1968 to promote the interests of the Mexican-American community. Like the NAACP and other affirmative-action minded organizations, La Raza has many members that are interested in being part of America and promoting equality for all Americans. The fundamental goals as stated by the movement are benign and represent the ideals of American diversity and cultural pride.

There is another movement affiliated with La Raza that has historically been more militant and still maintains documents within their organization that point to isolationistic views Read More

A Plan

The one major thing that seems to be lacking in the immigration debate is a real plan that addresses the legitimate concerns with illegal immigration. There are strong opinions on both sides and a lot of rhetoric but there isnít really any solid plan being promoted to address the illegal immigration issue in a way that is both fair and logical.

So, that being said here is my idea:Read More

Trucking Cross Borders

This is mainly a concern for the trucking business. If we allow these people to come into our country, bringing cargo that we in America have, and can supply, then we are saying that the American working people are not needed, and have lost all say to legally enforced DOT (Department of Transportation) laws.Read More



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